Create Live ISO installer and pre-installed disk images from Bootable Containers #32

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opened 2024-06-03 10:54:38 +00:00 by Siosm · 11 comments
Siosm commented 2024-06-03 10:54:38 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

The current installer for Fedora Atomic Desktops directly boots into the Anaconda installer and does not offer a Live ISO environment for users to explore the system before installing it. This is also important for accessibility as those tools are easier to setup and use in a live environment.

The current installer is currently built using lorax (and additional templates), which is no longer actively maintained and only kept on life support.

The current plan is to use KIWI, which is currently capable of building both ISOs & disk images for package mode Fedora.

Support for Bootable Containers is tracked in https://github.com/OSInside/kiwi/issues/38.

See previous discussions in:

The current installer for Fedora Atomic Desktops directly boots into the Anaconda installer and does not offer a Live ISO environment for users to explore the system before installing it. This is also important for accessibility as those tools are easier to setup and use in a live environment. The current installer is currently built using [lorax](https://github.com/weldr/lorax) (and additional [templates](https://pagure.io/fedora-lorax-templates)), which is no longer actively maintained and only kept on life support. The current plan is to use [KIWI](https://github.com/OSInside/kiwi), which is currently capable of building both ISOs & disk images for package mode Fedora. Support for Bootable Containers is tracked in https://github.com/OSInside/kiwi/issues/38. See previous discussions in: - https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/489 - https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/415 - https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/562
Siosm commented 2024-06-03 10:54:38 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

assigned to @Siosm

assigned to @Siosm
Siosm commented 2024-06-03 11:07:25 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

unassigned @Siosm

unassigned @Siosm
Siosm commented 2024-06-21 11:07:32 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

mentioned in commit ci-test@2b01272ef9f7f8476018c590dc2727e60158c6cf

mentioned in commit ci-test@2b01272ef9f7f8476018c590dc2727e60158c6cf
Siosm commented 2024-07-11 15:03:00 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Note that rpm-ostree probably won't work well on those but that's OK as it's not expected to: https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/issues/1921

Note that rpm-ostree probably won't work well on those but that's OK as it's not expected to: https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/issues/1921
maksymus2023 commented 2025-11-06 12:38:11 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Hello Developers,

Could you please provide an update on the current status of this issue?

I am reaching out because, due to various circumstances, I would like to try Fedora Silverblue. However, I am currently unable to do so because the Orca screen reader does not launch on the installer screen.

Perhaps someone could suggest any workarounds that would allow me to install Silverblue without requiring visual supervision?

I would be very grateful for any information and assistance.

Hello Developers, Could you please provide an update on the current status of this issue? I am reaching out because, due to various circumstances, I would like to try Fedora Silverblue. However, I am currently unable to do so because the Orca screen reader does not launch on the installer screen. Perhaps someone could suggest any workarounds that would allow me to install Silverblue without requiring visual supervision? I would be very grateful for any information and assistance.
Siosm commented 2025-11-06 14:06:05 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

You can give Bluefin a try. They are based on Silverblue and have Live ISO support in their latest ISOs if I'm not mistaken: https://docs.projectbluefin.io/blog/2025-10-28-bluefin-autumn/

You can give [Bluefin](https://projectbluefin.io/) a try. They are based on Silverblue and have Live ISO support in their latest ISOs if I'm not mistaken: https://docs.projectbluefin.io/blog/2025-10-28-bluefin-autumn/
maksymus2023 commented 2025-11-07 02:05:56 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Thank you very much.

I've taken the ISO from the blog post link you provided. Orca turns on without any issues after booting in the virtual machine.

This is a very interesting distribution!

Thank you very much. I've taken the ISO from the blog post link you provided. Orca turns on without any issues after booting in the virtual machine. This is a very interesting distribution!
Siosm commented 2025-11-10 19:03:10 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

@cnds I'm removing your comments as it's not relevant to the current discussion and not respectful.

@cnds I'm removing your comments as it's not relevant to the current discussion and not respectful.
Siosm commented 2025-11-13 14:06:41 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Respectful of the work that goes into building Universal Blue. Again, I'm removing your comment. Please read the Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/

Respectful of the work that goes into building Universal Blue. Again, I'm removing your comment. Please read the Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
Siosm commented 2026-01-19 13:06:25 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

For the ostree ISOs, the situation should improve with the following enhancement: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildAtomicDesktopsWithImageBuilder

For the ostree ISOs, the situation should improve with the following enhancement: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildAtomicDesktopsWithImageBuilder
Siosm commented 2026-01-19 13:15:55 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

mentioned in issue #26

mentioned in issue #26
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