Drop fuse (version 2) from all Atomic Desktops images

Siosm commented

2024-08-19 18:25:06 +00:00

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We no longer have any application requiring fuse version 2 (they all use fuse3 now).

So the library got dropped with an update in F40 once the last users was updated (rpm-ostree).

Fuse 2 is however apparently required for AppImage to work.

We recommend using Flatpaks, but a lot of users likely use AppImages to get some applications on Atomic Desktops.

Should we carry the fuse2 library "indefinitely" in the base image to keep compatibility?

I've re-added the package to F40 to keep the compatibility at least for this release.

We should decide quickly if we want it in Fedora 41, an then when (if ever) we want to drop it.

See: https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/589

We no longer have any application requiring fuse version 2 (they all use fuse3 now). So the library got dropped with an update in F40 once the last users was updated (rpm-ostree). Fuse 2 is however apparently required for AppImage to work. We recommend using Flatpaks, but a lot of users likely use AppImages to get some applications on Atomic Desktops. Should we carry the fuse2 library "indefinitely" in the base image to keep compatibility? I've re-added the package to F40 to keep the compatibility at least for this release. We should decide quickly if we want it in Fedora 41, an then when (if ever) we want to drop it. See: https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/589

Siosm commented

2024-08-19 18:26:29 +00:00

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It's probably too short notice to drop it for F41 so I'll likely keep it there as well, but we still need to have that discussion.

noelmiller commented

2024-08-19 19:07:03 +00:00

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For what it is worth, users of Bazzite use AppImages for some software because the creator does not ship a flatpak for it. We will plan on keeping it in our images if upstream decides to remove fuse 2.

miabbott commented

2024-08-19 19:50:08 +00:00

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another report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2305841

DragonLich commented

2024-08-19 20:27:48 +00:00

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I'm more inclined to help people out here and add the fuse2. In general, AppImages are spread especially that these should work everywhere, so people might be confused when they don't.

Siosm commented

2024-08-20 09:05:17 +00:00

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See also:

See also: - https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/pull/5047 - https://github.com/ublue-os/main/pull/631

Siosm commented

2024-08-20 09:09:07 +00:00

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I'm adding it back everywhere for now.

Siosm commented

2024-08-20 09:17:43 +00:00

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PRs:

PRs: - [x] Rawhide: https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-request/554 - [x] F41: https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-request/555 - [x] F40: https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-request/553

Siosm commented

2024-08-20 09:35:02 +00:00

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mentioned in commit ci-test@bed8509fd8936bb78ab4dd75413e0f867c8eec35

Siosm commented

2024-08-20 09:41:57 +00:00

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mentioned in commit ci-test@73eddcef47ea32638133a1428aebef6cfde28aaa

Siosm commented

2024-10-24 16:38:31 +00:00

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This is also a good candidate for a sysext. Let's keep this open for now.

Hasshu commented

2025-09-09 18:56:38 +00:00

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For what it's worth, secureblue doesn't support AppImage/libfuse2 out of the box due to security concerns.

Also, the new type2-runtime is linked statically, so "libfuse2 is no longer required on the target system".

This abandonware should be dropped for good, methinks.

For what it's worth, secureblue [doesn't support AppImage/libfuse2](https://secureblue.dev/faq#appimage) out of the box due to security concerns. Also, the new [type2-runtime](https://github.com/AppImage/type2-runtime) is linked statically, so "libfuse2 is no longer required on the target system". This abandonware should be dropped for good, methinks.

Siosm commented

2025-09-10 08:40:27 +00:00

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Interesting. That would still break the older AppImages but if the new ones work that would be OK. We should be able to do that in F44 maybe.

Siosm commented

2025-10-19 15:52:42 +00:00

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Siosm commented

2025-11-27 22:31:51 +00:00

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mentioned in commit ci-test@baaab74d38f5e0f7d97eb1d545c537fb9cb9e743

Siosm commented

2025-11-27 22:38:00 +00:00

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mentioned in commit ci-test@6da354c479ae73d80e8e1c713cf0b82f6469d8ec

Siosm commented

2026-01-16 18:07:32 +00:00

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set status to In progress

set status to **In progress**

Siosm commented

2026-01-16 18:07:57 +00:00

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Proposed to be dropped for F44: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AtomicDesktopDropFuse2

Siosm commented

2026-01-16 18:16:09 +00:00

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changed title from Should we keep fuse (version 2) in the base image for AppImage compatibility? to Drop fuse (version 2) from all Atomic Desktops images

changed title from <code class="idiff">Should we keep fuse (version 2) in the base image for AppImage compatibility?</code> to <code class="idiff">Drop fuse (version 2) from all Atomic Desktops images</code>

Siosm commented

2026-02-06 17:36:18 +00:00

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Siosm commented

2026-02-06 17:44:26 +00:00

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Siosm commented

2026-03-07 11:03:12 +00:00

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set status to Done

set status to **Done**

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2026-03-07 11:03:12 +00:00

Siosm commented

2026-03-07 11:03:13 +00:00

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This has been merged for F44.

Siosm commented

2026-03-19 10:19:43 +00:00

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yann-soubeyrand commented

2026-03-19 12:55:36 +00:00

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Hello @Siosm, I’m on Fedora Silverblue 44 beta and my AppImages don’t work, despite being type2-runtime AppImages (as indicated by Gear Lever):

dlopen(): error loading libfuse.so.2

AppImages require FUSE to run. 
You might still be able to extract the contents of this AppImage 
if you run it with the --appimage-extract option. 
See https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/FUSE 
for more information

Did I miss something?

Hello @Siosm, I’m on Fedora Silverblue 44 beta and my AppImages don’t work, despite being type2-runtime AppImages (as indicated by Gear Lever): ``` dlopen(): error loading libfuse.so.2 AppImages require FUSE to run. You might still be able to extract the contents of this AppImage if you run it with the --appimage-extract option. See https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/FUSE for more information ``` Did I miss something?