translate.fedoraproject.org is requiring contributors to agree to commercial weblate legal T&Cs upon login #45
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I've used translate.fedoraproject.org regularly since it was first deployed years ago. Today when logging in, I'm redirected to
https://translate.fedoraproject.org/legal/confirm/
and required to accept these commercial weblate legal T&Cs before I can continue to use the site.
This agreement is unacceptable to require of Fedora contributors, please remove it asap.
hi Daniel,
I don't have much knowledge on legal, my honest question: why is it unacceptable?
This pagure repository is really hidden with low visibility
I suggest to open the question on https://discussion.fedoraproject.org to get more visibility and feedbacks from a wider diversity of people, with more experience on legal
The use of Weblate in Fedora should be subject to an agreement between the Fedora project & the provider. Once agreed by Fedora the project, Individual Fedora contributors should not be required to individually sign legal agreements to use a Fedora service.
It contains nonsensical terms such as
Fedora contributors aren't business entities and cannot "explicitly confirm" this.
There are a whole bunch of terms about payment and invoicing which no Fedora contributor should be expected to agree to either.
This is documented as the placed to report problems on the i18n team page ! https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/localization/#find-l10n
Just for reference and FYI,
a link to the related Fedora Council's discussion summary
I think once the T&C will be removed from translate.fp.o, this issue can be closed...?
related ticket council/tickets#553
Hi, any update on this issue?
Hello,
The fact is that Weblate has provided a translation platform to the Fedora community since 2019. Since then, nothing has changed in how we safeguard user data, and nothing will. Weblate is and will be libre software, designed and maintained with privacy as one of its main values.
The Terms users need to agree with exist to put on paper how we as a provider run the service and remain unchanged since 2024, together with the Privacy Policy. The T&C and PP are the same across all Weblate instances provided as a service by the Weblate company. A human mistake is the reason the Terms were not shown for agreement on Fedora Weblate before and are for agreement this year.
We received several e-mails about this to our support, be it from responsible people of the Fedora community or regular contributors. But the Weblate company cannot make changes in this unilaterally; removing T&C from the server entirely is also not a possibility. What base would then exist to ensure careful data handling, service performance, availability, upgrades? We asked the responsible people from Fedora to provide changes to the documents drafted by responsible legal workers (Red Hat). We haven't received anything so far. Once we receive the proposed changes, we will happily discuss them and deploy them to the instance after agreement.
And no, no user will be asked to provide any payment details, as some were afraid; Red Hat pays for the service. But the Terms need to reflect that as well. The wording of legal documents can be changed; as it is requested by the Fedora community, responsible people need to provide how so we all are sure it will serve the community.
Benjamin from the Weblate team