Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2025 #72

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opened 2025-02-10 23:55:06 +00:00 by robert-scheck · 31 comments
robert-scheck commented 2025-02-10 23:55:06 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

About you

  • Name: Robert Scheck

  • FAS username: robert

  • How do you primarily contribute to Fedora? (2-3 sentences): I'm a Fedora packager since 2006, became over time time provenpackager and package sponsor. I'm a Fedora ambassador since 2007 for Germany, supported FAmA and became later an ambassador mentor. In the Fedora context, I attended 50+ physical events, mainly in Germany, some in the rest of Europe and one in India.

About the event

  • Event name(s): Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2025 (english: Chemnitz Linux days 2025)

  • Event dates: 22 March 2025 and 23 March 2025

  • Event location(s): Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany

  • Event URL(s): https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2025/en/ and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linuxtage_2025

  • Event description(s) (2-4 sentences per event): Since their inception in 1999 the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage have gained a reputation of being the German FLOSS community event attracting more than 3000 visitors over a weekend in March. The event takes place at the faculty of computer science/information technology at the Chemnitz university of technology and countless volunteers make it happen. There are talks, demonstrations, live workshops, community projects and some companies who present themselves. The Fedora Project usually had a physical booth at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage each year since 2007 with the exception of mainly the years of COVID-19 pandemic.

Requested support

NOTE: The budget amount you request is a hard limit. If actual spend exceeds the requested budget, the extra amount will not be reimbursed. It is suggested to pad your requested budget with a buffer amount, in case of changing travel costs, hotel rates, etc.

  • Support requested: hotel

  • Budget estimates: 213 USD

    • Travel expenses: -
    • Hotel expenses: Hotel for FAS username @rapgro (booth staff), 3 nights (171 EUR ≈ 180 USD)
  • Accessibility needs & requests: No

  • Other needs: Aside of Fedora-branded swag, swag and swag, a Fedora poster (reusable) would be helpful and appreciated, because the still existing rollups from 2006 (also with the old Fedora logo) really reached their physical end of life. Regionally printed poster with size 60×90 cm is 31 EUR ≈ 33 USD). This is obviously not mandatory, but sending a (current) rollup across Germany or Europe using parcel services isn't a financial improvment either.

This event & Fedora

  • Are you a speaker or presenter? If yes, give the title and description of your presentation: Yes, "Internet-Messungen mit RIPE Atlas" (english: Internet measurements with RIPE Atlas). I'm not sure if the description matters, given it's not directly Fedora related: RIPE Atlas is a global and open measurement network with thousands of measurement probes that measure Internet connectivity in real time. It's provided, operated and developed by the RIPE NCC, the organisation managing IP address and AS numbers in Europe, the Middle East and parts of Central Asia. The measurement probes themselves are Open Source Software and can be operated by interested parties and volunteers, even on a home internet connection. Being interested in Internet routing and security (e.g. BGP, RPKI/ROA) and with my capability as packager, I supported their development of the current software probe generation for Enterprise Linux 9 (CentOS Stream and RHEL). As mentioned before, it's not really Fedora related, but you just asked if I'm a speaker ;-)

  • Are you an organizer or volunteer? If yes, explain your role: No

  • Why is it a good idea for the Fedora Project to have a presence?: Because it's one of the FLOSS community events in Germany (the other one is FrOSCon from my point of view), where mainly users, but also developers, from all over Germany come together. The event targets users, not developers, but users can become developers or contributors over time. Usually all common/large Linux distribution communities attend the event with a booth, while it might be not a good argument. Visitors are looking for somebody to talk about Fedora in person and to raise their questions they might not raise online. Aside of this, people are also even looking for a Fedora booth (see next section for details).

  • Why do you want to represent the Fedora community here?: Because I really enjoy this event, the people there and I like to help them with all the questions and issues they come up with - and I'm a Fedora ambassador. I wouldn't drive 2x 450 km by car (2x ~5 hours plus traffic jams) about each year if the event wouldn't be worth it. And I'm attending the event, with or without a Fedora booth. When I attended in 2023 and 2024 as a regular visitor without a Fedora booth (unfortunately not enough Fedora people, due to different reasons, to cover the organiser's requirements for a booth), I was really asked often in both years why there is no Fedora booth and whether there will be one again.

  • Are there others in the Fedora community who could help this event be successful? If yes, name any key individuals, teams, or SIGs in the Fedora community needed for success: No

Other

  • Is there anything else the Fedora Mindshare Committee should know when reviewing your request?: No
<!--Thank you for your interest in proposing an event for the Fedora community. This issue template is the first place to start in getting support and/or funding for your event. The Fedora Mindshare Committee is responsible for reviewing, discussing, and voting on your event. This issue template is specifically for MEDIUM and LARGE EVENTS, as documented in the Mindshare Committee event policies: - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/events/requests/medium/ - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/events/requests/large/ This GitLab issue is the primary place to get feedback and requests on your event proposal. The issue is meant to be public, to allow for community feedback and participation.--> ## About you <!--These questions help us understand more about you and your participation with Fedora.--> * **Name**: Robert Scheck * **FAS username**: robert * **How do you primarily contribute to Fedora?** (2-3 sentences): I'm a Fedora packager since 2006, became over time time provenpackager and package sponsor. I'm a Fedora ambassador since 2007 for Germany, supported FAmA and became later an ambassador mentor. In the Fedora context, I attended 50+ physical events, mainly in Germany, some in the rest of Europe and one in India. ## About the event <!--These questions help us understand more about the proposed event.--> * **Event name(s)**: Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2025 (english: Chemnitz Linux days 2025) * **Event dates**<!--e.g. from 28 February 2027 to 2 March 2027-->: 22 March 2025 and 23 March 2025 * **Event location(s)**<!--city, state/province/county, country-->: Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany * **Event URL(s)**: https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2025/en/ and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linuxtage_2025 * **Event description(s)** (2-4 sentences per event): Since their inception in 1999 the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage have gained a reputation of being *the* German FLOSS community event attracting more than 3000 visitors over a weekend in March. The event takes place at the faculty of computer science/information technology at the Chemnitz university of technology and countless volunteers make it happen. There are talks, demonstrations, live workshops, community projects and some companies who present themselves. The Fedora Project usually had a physical booth at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage each year since 2007 with the exception of mainly the years of COVID-19 pandemic. ## Requested support <!--These questions help the Mindshare Committee understand what support you need to be a responsible representative of the Fedora community.--> _NOTE_: The budget amount you request is a hard limit. If actual spend exceeds the requested budget, the extra amount will not be reimbursed. It is suggested to pad your requested budget with a buffer amount, in case of changing travel costs, hotel rates, etc. * **Support requested**<!--Delete all that do NOT apply.-->: hotel * **Budget estimates**: <!--Make estimates in US Dollar (USD) to the best of your ability. Use a site like Skyscanner.com to estimate airfare.--> 213 USD * **Travel expenses**<!--In USD: Air, rail, taxi/ride-share/parking-->: - * **Hotel expenses**<!--In USD: Hotel or hostel. Note, Airbnb's are NOT allowed and will NOT be reimbursed.-->: Hotel for FAS username @rapgro (booth staff), 3 nights (171 EUR ≈ 180 USD) * **Accessibility needs & requests**<!--If you require special accommodations, describe these needs so they can be prioritized early.-->: No * **Other needs**<!--Anything else you must have to be successful that is not listed above.-->: Aside of Fedora-branded swag, swag and swag, a *Fedora poster* (reusable) would be helpful and appreciated, because the still [existing rollups](https://web.archive.org/web/20220621231806/https://fabian-affolter.ch/blog/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2019/) [from 2006](https://web.archive.org/web/20220621230809/https://fabian-affolter.ch/blog/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2018/) (also with the old Fedora logo) really reached their physical end of life. Regionally printed poster with size 60×90 cm is 31 EUR ≈ 33 USD). This is obviously not mandatory, but sending a (current) rollup across Germany or Europe using parcel services isn't a financial improvment either. ## This event & Fedora <!--Fedora gets many requests for events. These questions help us understand whether the Fedora Project is a good fit for the event and the interests of the Fedora community.--> * **Are you a speaker or presenter? If yes, give the title and description of your presentation**: Yes, "Internet-Messungen mit RIPE Atlas" (english: Internet measurements with RIPE Atlas). I'm not sure if the description matters, given it's not directly Fedora related: RIPE Atlas is a global and open measurement network with thousands of measurement probes that measure Internet connectivity in real time. It's provided, operated and developed by the RIPE NCC, the organisation managing IP address and AS numbers in Europe, the Middle East and parts of Central Asia. The measurement probes themselves are Open Source Software and can be operated by interested parties and volunteers, even on a home internet connection. Being interested in Internet routing and security (e.g. BGP, RPKI/ROA) and with my capability as packager, I supported their development of the current software probe generation for Enterprise Linux 9 (CentOS Stream and RHEL). As mentioned before, it's not really Fedora related, but you just asked if I'm a speaker ;-) * **Are you an organizer or volunteer? If yes, explain your role**: No * **Why is it a good idea for the Fedora Project to have a presence?**: Because it's one of *the* FLOSS community events in Germany (the other one is FrOSCon from my point of view), where mainly users, but also developers, from all over Germany come together. The event targets users, not developers, but users can become developers or contributors over time. Usually all common/large Linux distribution communities attend the event with a booth, while it might be not a good argument. Visitors are looking for somebody to talk about Fedora in person and to raise their questions they might not raise online. Aside of this, people are also even looking for a Fedora booth (see next section for details). * **Why do you want to represent the Fedora community here?**: Because I really enjoy this event, the people there and I like to help them with all the questions and issues they come up with - and I'm a Fedora ambassador. I wouldn't drive 2x 450 km by car (2x ~5 hours plus traffic jams) about each year if the event wouldn't be worth it. And I'm attending the event, with or without a Fedora booth. When I attended in 2023 and 2024 as a regular visitor without a Fedora booth (unfortunately not enough Fedora people, due to different reasons, to cover the organiser's requirements for a booth), I was really asked often in both years why there is no Fedora booth and whether there will be one again. * **Are there others in the Fedora community who could help this event be successful? If yes, name any key individuals, teams, or SIGs in the Fedora community needed for success**: No ## Other * **Is there anything else the Fedora Mindshare Committee should know when reviewing your request?**: No <!--DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE!-->
robert-scheck commented 2025-02-11 19:45:23 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

I personally dislike such “Salami slicing tactics” and I don't know whether it's really needed to buy commodity hardware, but will leave the decision to the people allowed to vote here.

I personally dislike such “Salami slicing tactics” and I don't know whether it's really needed to buy commodity hardware, but will leave the decision to the people allowed to vote here.
rapgro commented 2025-02-11 20:18:05 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Comment deleted, sorry for confusion that was not intentional.

Comment deleted, sorry for confusion that was not intentional.
pbokoc commented 2025-02-14 08:49:29 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

+1 from me, sounds great. What do you think, @jwwheeler?

+1 from me, sounds great. What do you think, @jwwheeler?
robert-scheck commented 2025-02-24 19:54:31 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/events/requests/medium/ says:

  1. Voting usually starts very quickly. The ticket needs to get 3 +1s and no -1s in eleven days. When this happens, a committee member will update the ticket with an approved message. If all committee members vote sooner, the ticket can be approved sooner. The goal of the eleven day period is to ensure that we have at least one meeting during the discussion period (allowing for holidays, etc.).

Unfortunately, only one Fedora Mindshare Committee member voted in the 11 days after this ticket was opened. What does that now mean practically? Does the Fedora Mindshare Committee not want to see the Fedora Project represented with a booth at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage? It would be disappointing given the time for the plannings and preparations so far and especially since from my point of view the current situation is caused by a lack of votes, not by -1s.

If this incomplete voting result nevertheless expresses a rejection, it would be good to know this explicitly, because then I have to quickly cancel Fedora's participation at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage so that perhaps another community project can take this place.

@jwwheeler, as the current Fedora Mindshare Committee chair, could you please respond here? Thank you :)

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/events/requests/medium/ says: > 3. Voting usually starts very quickly. The ticket needs to get 3 +1s and no -1s in eleven days. When this happens, a committee member will update the ticket with an approved message. If all committee members vote sooner, the ticket can be approved sooner. The goal of the eleven day period is to ensure that we have at least one meeting during the discussion period (allowing for holidays, etc.). Unfortunately, only *one* Fedora Mindshare Committee member voted in the 11 days after this ticket was opened. What does that now mean practically? Does the Fedora Mindshare Committee not want to see the Fedora Project represented with a booth at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage? It would be disappointing given the time for the plannings and preparations so far and especially since from my point of view the current situation is caused by a lack of votes, not by -1s. If this incomplete voting result nevertheless expresses a rejection, it would be good to know this explicitly, because then I have to quickly cancel Fedora's participation at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage so that perhaps another community project can take this place. @jwwheeler, as the current Fedora Mindshare Committee chair, could you please respond here? Thank you :)
rapgro commented 2025-02-25 07:40:30 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

FTR, I've not got any response yet for my badge request either.
https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/946

FTR, I've not got any response yet for my badge request either. https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/946
theprogram commented 2025-02-26 02:34:45 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Hit them up on the Matrix badges channel?
It seems to be a slow week at Fedora 😄
Hope you get this approved, it is a small ask.

Hit them up on the Matrix badges channel? It seems to be a slow week at Fedora :smile: Hope you get this approved, it is a small ask.
rapgro commented 2025-02-26 11:43:11 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

@theprogram Thank you. But let's discuss bagde in dedicated issue.

@theprogram Thank you. But let's discuss bagde in dedicated issue.
nbebout commented 2025-02-26 21:48:27 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

+1

+1
sumantrom commented 2025-02-28 02:13:27 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

I am +1 to this event. If my read this right, in budget terms this is a Medium event and the rule says 3 +1s no -1 in 11 days.. which I think my +1 does get you to. I think @mattdm and @amoloney can weigh in with something soon in the absence of Justin!

I am +1 to this event. If my read this right, in budget terms this is a [Medium event](https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/events/requests/medium/) and the rule says 3 +1s no -1 in 11 days.. which I think my +1 does get you to. I think @mattdm and @amoloney can weigh in with something soon in the absence of Justin!
rapgro commented 2025-03-03 16:15:07 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Thanks a lot. So we can assume approval for our booth?

Thanks a lot. So we can assume approval for our booth?
jasonbrooks commented 2025-03-03 18:30:58 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Hey, @rapgro thanks for your patience. I'm filling in for Justin (I'm his manager at RH, aka jasonbrooks on fas), you're approved for this. Would you please fill out a ticket here so I can cross our compliance t's?

Hey, @rapgro thanks for your patience. I'm filling in for Justin (I'm his manager at RH, aka jasonbrooks on fas), you're approved for this. Would you please fill out a ticket [here](https://gitlab.com/redhat/ospo/bear/-/issues/new?issuable_template=default) so I can cross our compliance t's?
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-03 19:57:18 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

@jasonbrooks, thank you very much for stepping in! Are you also taking care about the swag part? Or is this handled by someboy else?

@jasonbrooks, thank you very much for stepping in! Are you also taking care about the swag part? Or is this handled by someboy else?
jasonbrooks commented 2025-03-03 20:19:40 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

thoughts, @amoloney ?

thoughts, @amoloney ?
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-04 18:06:36 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

It's exactly 2.5 weeks until the event begins - thus swag is currently the most pressuring topic…

It's exactly 2.5 weeks until the event begins - thus swag is currently the most pressuring topic…
jasonbrooks commented 2025-03-04 20:16:15 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Are you looking to get this posted printed, is that the estimated 33EU cost? I'm checking on the Fedora swag box to send

Are you looking to get this posted printed, is that the estimated 33EU cost? I'm checking on the Fedora swag box to send
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-04 21:54:47 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Yes, the estimated 31 EUR were calculated for getting https://gitlab.com/fedora/design/team/event-kit/-/tree/main/StandUpBanners printed as a poster as shipping a stand-up banner across Europe most likely isn't cheap either (especially when sending it back and forth, possibly under time pressure because of the next event; like for the table cloth some years ago). Nevertheless, I'm open for better options and suggestions (nothing sent to printing yet!), just let me know.

The organizer provides us with three pop-up walls: One white one for the projector, one transparent one filled with the poster by the organizer, and one transparent one was planned for the mentioned poster to be printed - alternatively we can hide the pop-up wall using a stand-up banner (that's what we did with the old roll-up banner from 2006 like in the picture linked somewhere above).

Not to forget that giveaway swag like pens, stickers, pins or whatever exists with a Fedora logo would be helpful :)

Yes, the estimated 31 EUR were calculated for getting https://gitlab.com/fedora/design/team/event-kit/-/tree/main/StandUpBanners printed as a poster as shipping a stand-up banner across Europe most likely isn't cheap either (especially when sending it back and forth, possibly under time pressure because of the next event; like for the table cloth some years ago). Nevertheless, I'm open for better options and suggestions (nothing sent to printing yet!), just let me know. The organizer provides us with three pop-up walls: One white one for the projector, one transparent one filled with the poster by the organizer, and one transparent one was planned for the mentioned poster to be printed - alternatively we can hide the pop-up wall using a stand-up banner (that's what we did with the old roll-up banner from 2006 like in the picture linked somewhere above). Not to forget that giveaway swag like pens, stickers, pins or whatever exists with a Fedora logo would be helpful :)
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-05 20:18:53 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Given the time the printing company needs including shipping (at least one parcel service strikes), the window for in-time arrival closes soon, thus I'll send it to printing tonight (European time) if I don't hear otherwise...I don't want to arrive at the event location with no poster or banner at all.

Given the time the printing company needs including shipping (at least one parcel service strikes), the window for in-time arrival closes soon, thus I'll send it to printing tonight (European time) if I don't hear otherwise...I don't want to arrive at the event location with no poster or banner at all.
jasonbrooks commented 2025-03-05 20:24:30 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Sorry for the delayed processing, Robert. Since we're sending you swag anyway, we'll send you the event box that's in Brno which does include a banner. No need to print. Can you email me at jbrooks@redhat.com with the address where we should send the box?

Sorry for the delayed processing, Robert. Since we're sending you swag anyway, we'll send you the event box that's in Brno which does include a banner. No need to print. Can you email me at jbrooks@redhat.com with the address where we should send the box?
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-05 20:50:41 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Thank you for letting me know, I've sent you the address as requested.

Thank you for letting me know, I've sent you the address as requested.
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-11 10:18:06 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

@jasonbrooks, any status update regarding shipping? Very latest arrival for the event box would be Friday, February March 21st, 2025 at 12:00 pm (noon) localtime (this is when we actually leave at shipping address for driving to Chemnitz). Practically the arrival a couple of days before would be highly appreciated.

@jasonbrooks, any status update regarding shipping? _Very latest_ arrival for the event box would be Friday, ~~February~~ March 21st, 2025 at 12:00 pm (noon) localtime (this is when we actually leave at shipping address for driving to Chemnitz). Practically the arrival a couple of days before would be highly appreciated.
jasonbrooks commented 2025-03-11 14:22:38 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

You mean March, right?

You mean March, right?
jasonbrooks commented 2025-03-11 14:25:50 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

@rapgro Our ability to reimburse you for the hotel will depend on completing this process: https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/72#note_2376530703

@rapgro Our ability to reimburse you for the hotel will depend on completing this process: https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/72#note_2376530703
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-11 14:29:30 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Yes, indeed March not February, I'm very sorry.

Yes, indeed March not February, I'm very sorry.
rapgro commented 2025-03-12 09:11:07 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Done. https://gitlab.com/redhat/ospo/bear/-/issues/59

Be aware two nights only.

Done. https://gitlab.com/redhat/ospo/bear/-/issues/59 Be aware two nights only.
jasonbrooks commented 2025-03-12 19:31:52 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

We're set for the delivery, I'll send you a tracking # once I have it.

We're set for the delivery, I'll send you a tracking # once I have it.
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-18 12:21:46 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

The two packets from Brno arrived a couple of minutes ago.

The two packets from Brno arrived a couple of minutes ago.
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-26 22:38:18 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

I submitted the pickup request using the Red Hat GLC form as requested by the enclosed documentation, waiting for confirmation by GLC and pickup of the two packets.

I submitted the pickup request using the Red Hat GLC form as requested by the enclosed documentation, waiting for confirmation by GLC and pickup of the two packets.
robert-scheck commented 2025-03-27 11:34:50 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

Parcel service picked up the two packets a couple of minutes ago, pickup is visible at tracking.

Parcel service picked up the two packets a couple of minutes ago, pickup is visible at tracking.
rapgro commented 2025-04-03 14:00:34 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
Event report requested for review and publish. https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/review-publish-fedora-at-chemnitzer-linux-tage-2025/148166
justwheel commented 2025-05-13 14:49:30 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

assigned to @jwwheeler

assigned to @jwwheeler
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justwheel commented 2025-05-26 21:54:51 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)

The reimbursement was paid out about a week ago. The event report is published. This ticket is complete 🎉 Thanks @rapgro for representing the Fedora community out there!

https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-at-chemnitzer-linux-tage-2025/

Closing. 🌊

The reimbursement was paid out about a week ago. The event report is published. This ticket is complete :tada: Thanks @rapgro for representing the Fedora community out there! https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-at-chemnitzer-linux-tage-2025/ Closing. :ocean:
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