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Start a criteria discussion about non-default network install package sets #881

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opened 2026-02-23 19:32:26 +00:00 by adamwill · 5 comments
adamwill commented 2026-02-23 19:32:26 +00:00
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At the blocker review meeting today, we punted https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2439813 because the current criteria don't clearly cover "install of a non-default package set from a network install image should complete and work as expected" (in fact, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_44_Final_Release_Criteria#Minimal_install kinda implies that's not covered), but there was some clear sentiment that they should.

This seemed too complex to decide in the meeting, so we agreed to kick off a discussion of it on the mailing list and/or Discourse. So, this ticket is for doing that.

@kparal , do you want to do this? I think it might work better for you to take a 'fresh look' at it rather than me doing it. But if you'd rather, I can do it.

tagging @ngompa for info.

At the blocker review meeting today, we punted https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2439813 because the current criteria don't clearly cover "install of a non-default package set from a network install image should complete and work as expected" (in fact, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_44_Final_Release_Criteria#Minimal_install kinda implies that's *not* covered), but there was some clear sentiment that they should. This seemed too complex to decide in the meeting, so we agreed to kick off a discussion of it on the mailing list and/or Discourse. So, this ticket is for doing that. @kparal , do you want to do this? I think it might work better for you to take a 'fresh look' at it rather than me doing it. But if you'd rather, I can do it. tagging @ngompa for info.
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adamwill commented 2026-02-23 19:33:32 +00:00
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Note: if we wanted to go in a direction like "network install of release-blocking package sets is release blocking", we should get input on that from all relevant SIGs/WGs, especially the desktop SIG. ISTR they do not want network install of GNOME to be release blocking, but IMBW.

Note: if we wanted to go in a direction like "network install of release-blocking package sets is release blocking", we should get input on that from all relevant SIGs/WGs, especially the desktop SIG. ISTR they do *not* want network install of GNOME to be release blocking, but IMBW.
kparal commented 2026-02-24 12:00:17 +00:00
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I thought I've given up and it was not going to be even discussed further 🙂 Sure, I can start a discussion thread about it and invite Workstation/KDE/Server/Cloud people. (I'm not sure if this makes sense for Cloud, to be honest, but it is available in the environment list on netinstall...).

I thought I've given up and it was not going to be even discussed further 🙂 Sure, I can start a discussion thread about it and invite Workstation/KDE/Server/Cloud people. (I'm not sure if this makes sense for Cloud, to be honest, but it **is** available in the environment list on netinstall...).
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adamwill commented 2026-02-25 17:28:48 +00:00
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In the meeting I just said it looks too complicated and needs to involve too many other groups to decide it in the meeting, the plan was always to start a discussion after the meeting.

In the meeting I just said it looks too complicated and needs to involve too many other groups to decide it *in the meeting*, the plan was always to start a discussion after the meeting.
kparal commented 2026-03-10 10:07:34 +00:00
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When starting this discussion, it would probably be good to not only cover
a) does the package set install and work properly? (bug 2439813)
but also
b) does the package set include everything that's expected? (bug 2437049)

Let's do both.

When starting this discussion, it would probably be good to not only cover _a) does the package set install and work properly?_ ([bug 2439813](https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2439813)) but also _b) does the package set include everything that's expected?_ ([bug 2437049](https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2437049)) Let's do both.
kparal commented 2026-03-10 15:25:28 +00:00
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We're unlikely to complete this in time before F44 Final, so let's move this to F45 cycle, and do this actually in time before F45 cycle, so that we can take bugs like these as blockers, if stakeholders want it that way.

We're unlikely to complete this in time before F44 Final, so let's move this to F45 cycle, and do this actually in time before F45 cycle, so that we can take bugs like these as blockers, if stakeholders want it that way.
kparal removed this from the Sprint 4 project 2026-03-10 15:25:34 +00:00
kparal modified the milestone from Fedora 44 to Fedora 45 2026-03-10 15:26:24 +00:00
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